Imvumi yaseIndiya.I-Arie ibonelela ngeThemba ngeli xesha laManzithinzithi

Indiya emangalisayo UArie ngumculi / umbhali wengoma waseMelika othengise ngaphezulu kwe-3.3 yezigidi zeerekhodi eMelika kunye nezigidi ezili-10 kwihlabathi liphela. Uphumelele amabhaso amane eGrammy ngokutyunjwa kwakhe okungama-23, kubandakanya ne-albhamu yeBest R&B. Wenza ubugcisa bhanyabhanya, "Wamkelekile Ekhaya," ukunceda ukuzola isizwe ngexesha le-COVID-19 ubhubhane.

I-coronavirus ibonakalise ngaphaya kwesithunzi sokuthandabuza ukuba siyindalo exhomekeke komnye, wandixelela uArie. “Sikhulele sikholelwa ekubeni impilo yinto umntu ayifunayo, kodwa kufuneka sandise umbono wethu mna ukuya thina .”

Njengengcali yempilo, uyanyanzelisa ukuba iinkqubo zethu zoqoqosho, ezopolitiko kunye nezentlalo aziphilanga, ke abantu bethu abaphili. Ukungabikho kweenkqubo ezisikhathaleleyo sonke, ukhathalelo oluhlanganyelanayo noluntu ziindlela ezibalulekileyo kwimpilo-ntle yethu sonke. Ukuzabalazela ukuba sempilweni, kufuneka sandise umbono wethu ukusuka mna ukuya thina . Ngokuka-Arie, eli xesha lingazange libonwe lelona xesha lilungileyo lokubonelela ngempilo entle, ngoxolo kunye noxolo usebenzisa umculo wakhe njengesixhobo samazwi axhokonxa iingcinga kunye nokucamngca ngengqondo.

Ndibe nethamsanqa lokuhlala phantsi noArie sixoxe ngezimvo zakhe malunga nokuba singaphila njani kakuhle kwihlabathi elingenampilo kwaye sinxibelelane ngakumbi kwinkcubeko elawulwa ngokwahlukana. Kwaye yonke into iqala njani ngamnye kuthi ngokujonga ngaphakathi.

UBryan Robinson: Indiya, ndonwabile ukuthetha nawe. Ungumculi womculo obalaseleyo, kodwa ndingathanda ukuba abafundi bazi malunga nohambo lwakho lobuqu lokuba sempilweni kunye nezinye zezinto ozenzayo ukunceda isizwe siphilise ngala maxesha angaqhelekanga siphila kuwo.

Indiya.Arie: Ukungena kwam kwicandelo lomculo, impilo yam yabethwa ngamandla kuwo onke amanqanaba-ngokwengqondo, ngokomoya, ngokwasemzimbeni nangokweemvakalelo. Ndaqala ukujonga izinto zam zokomoya hayi njengezinto zokuzonwabisa kodwa njengezixhobo zokuzenza ebomini. Ngoku ukukhula kwam, impilo, kunye nokucamngca zizinto endizithandayo ukuzenza.

URobinson Ngaba kukho unxibelelwano phakathi kobomi bakho kunye nezinye zezinto ozenzayo ngoku?

UArie : Xa sithetha malunga nendlela izinto ezibukeka ngayo ngokuchasene nezinto eziyiyo, izinto endizenzayo zimalunga nendawo endikhulele kuyo. Umsebenzi wam uneminyaka engama-20 ngoku. Kukho indawo yokuba ngumntu odumileyo owakhayo kwaye uxelele abantu, "Le yiIndiya.Arie." Sonke sinobuso esidlangalaleni. Kum, ibilahlekile uninzi lwento yonke endiyiyo.

URobinson Kwingqondo, siyibiza ngokuba ngumntu.

UArie: Ilungile lo nto. Eyona nto indenza ndizive ndingonwabanga ngombono kukuba mkhulu kangakanani. Ngamanye amaxesha abantu bayandimisa bathi, "Nguwe u-India.Arie?" kwaye kufuneka ndicinge umzuzwana. Xa ndisiva oko, kuvakala ngathi bathetha ngento. Andiyibhilibhodi. Ayisiyonto indenzakalisa okanye indikhathaze. Ivakala ingaqhelekanga.

URobinson: Ingathi uba yimveliso okanye into enkulu kunobomi, kwaye abantu bafuna ukusondela kuwe.

UArie : Ewe, phantse ngathi bayakuxelela ukuba uyintoni, kodwa bayakuxelela ukuba uyintoni kubo. Le nto yomntu ithe tyaba, ilahlekile imiba yokuba ungubani kanye kanye. Kule minyaka idlulileyo, kwakulungile kum ukuba yayiyilento kwakufuneka ndiyenzile ukufikelela apho ndifuna ukuya khona. Kodwa ngokuya ndikhula, ndibushiyile ubuchule bokuziqhekeza okanye ukunciphisa imeko yam yokwenyani kubomi bam basesidlangalaleni. Bendihlala ndilumke ndingakhubekisi abantu okanye ndithethe into elungileyo. Ngoku xa ndicula, ndivumela abaphulaphuli bazi ukuba andiyongxaki, isitshixo esiphantsi nje. Ndiyazivumela ukuba ndinguye, ndigqibe.

URobinson: Ungandixelela malunga nokuPhila kwethu?

UArie : Impilo-ntle yethu yintsebenziswano kunye nomhlobo osenyongweni ixesha elide kuba ezi zizinto ekwakukudala ndifuna ukuzenza. Ukolu hambo ndiza kuphuma egumbini kunye nazo zonke izinto zam.

Ndingugqirha wezempilo, kwaye ndicamngca kwaye ndingumbhali njengoko ndiyimvumi. Ukuba ndiphuma ngomnyango ngoku, abantu bazakundibiza iNdiya, uArie, kodwa abazi kwanto ngokubhala kwam okanye indlela yokucamngca. Ndikulungele ukuphuma ndize ndibe yiyo yonke le nto esidlangalaleni. Ndisoloko ndifuna ukuba yinxalenye yenkqubo yokuphilisa nabani na umculo wam. Leyo yayiyinjongo yam kwasekuqaleni. Ngoku, ndikulungele ukubandakanyeka kakhulu kwingxoxo, ngakumbi emhlabeni kunye namaqela amancinci abantu, zama ukuba kuthetha ntoni ukuba kwincoko, hayi umculo kuphela. Impilo entle yethu siyenza ngokwam ukuba ndibandakanyeke kuyo kodwa ikwanika nabantu into abanokuphethukela kuyo.

URobinson Ukuvulwa kwakho kwaye uvumele abantu babone ngakumbi kuwe kuya kubanceda kuba abantu abaninzi baziva ngathi ngabo bodwa abavakalelwa ngendlela ethile engeyonyani.

UArie : Ukubhala kwam kundifundise oko. I-albhamu yam yokuqala yaphuma nge-25, kwaye ndacinga ukuba zininzi izinto endandikhe ndadlula kuzo, kodwa ukuphuma kwengoma, bendifana nokuthi, "Wonke umntu uziva ngoluhlobo?" Ke malunga neminyaka eli-10 eyadlulayo ndaqala ukubhala iingoma apho ndingakhange ndibambe nto khona. Ndinengoma ethi "Inye" apho ndicula yonke into endiyikholelwayo, intanda-bulumko yam yokomoya epheleleyo ngengoma enye. Ithi yonke into yehla ithande uthando, nokuba ungayiphi na inkolo. Kodwa kuye kwafuneka ndisebenze ndiye kuthi ga kwinqanaba lokunyaniseka apho bekungafuneki ukuba ndizifihle izinto okanye ndizitsho ngendlela ethile. Ke kule minyaka ili-10 idlulileyo, ndibhala yonke into endifuna ukuyibhala; Ndithetha le ndifuna ukuyithetha. Emva kokuba ndibhale "Ndikhanya" ngo-2012 kwaye emva kweminyaka emine okanye emihlanu ndizivumele ndikhululeke, ndikhululeke nyhani ekubhaleni kwam ingoma, ndakwazi ukubhala ingoma elula kodwa eyinyani. Ngoku ndibhalela inqanaba elilandelayo lokuvula. Ndifunde emva kokubhala ezo ngoma, akukho nto itshintshileyo. Akukho mntu undigwebileyo. Rhoqo ngexeshana, abantu abathathu okanye abane bayakushiya ikhonsathi, kwaye ndicinga ukuba, ndiyavuya xa ushiye ngoku kuba sizokungena nzulu. Uyayazi indlela abantu abayiyo inkolo. Ibenza babuze yonke into malunga nabo.

URobinson : Obo buhlungu yingqondo yabo yecikilishe, indawo eyoyikekayo yokusinda esongelwa ziimvo ezintsha. Ayisiyongqondo yokucinga okanye yoyilo. Lumxinwa kwaye luyoyika utshintsho. Le nto uyenzayo yandisa ububanzi. Ngandlela thile, ungumvangeli osasaza umyalezo.

UArie: Okwam isifundo kukuba ingqondo yam yecikilishe yayindenza ndicinge ukuba kuyingozi ukubhala ezi ngoma ezazindigcina ndicinga ekuqaleni kobomi bam andinakukwazi ukuzicula ezi zinto. Nje ukuba ndikhululeke kuloo nto, ngalo lonke ixesha ndicula "Inye" kunye neengoma ezinzulu, ezo zichazayo, ndifumana intswahla yokuma. Kwaye ingqondo yam yecilishe ivakalelwa kakuhle.

URobinson Ngaba nawuphi na umculo wakho uvela kubunzima bakho?

UArie : Wonke umculo wam uvela kubunzima bam. Abantu abaphulaphule ngokwenene bayazi kuba ithetha nabo malunga nobunzima babo. Ukuba umamela nje umculo, mhle, kodwa uyaphoswa. Ukuba umamele ingoma uva umntu osebenza ngezinto. Ngengoma ethi, “Ndim Ukukhanya,” ukuze umntu athi, “Andizizo izinto ezenziwa lusapho lwam,” loo nto iyodwa ikwenza ubuze, “Benze ntoni kuwe? Kufuneka ubekhona ukuze ukwazi ukuyicula. ” Ke andinguye amazwi entlokweni yam; Andizizo iziqwenga zokwaphuka ngaphakathi.

URobinson : "Ndim Ukukhanya" yeyona ndiyithandayo.

UArie : Ndinenye ingoma ebizwa ngokuba “Yidibanise.” Umgca wokuqala uthi, “Udubule entliziyweni yakho ungakhange wophule ulusu lwakho. Akukho mntu unamandla okukwenzakalisa njengeKin yakho. ” Lwenza ntoni usapho lwakho kuwe? Ndinengoma ethi, “Uyandiphilisa.” Kukuphilisa ngantoni, kwaye ngubani yena? Bangaphi abakhe bakwenzakalise? Konke kuvela kubunzima. Andiyontombazana yakho iphakathi kwividiyo yakho. Ndifunde ukuzithanda ngaphandle kwemiqathango. Ke wawunjani ngaphambi kokuba ufunde ukuzithanda ngokungathandabuzekiyo? Kum, ndifuna ukuziphilisa ngomculo. Kwaye ukuba nabani na ongomnye unokufumana into kuyo, ndiziva ngathi ndisikelelekile kakhulu ngokwenza oku. Bangaphi kuthi abanceda abantu kwisikali? Ndiyabulela ngayo, kodwa iqala ngam. Kwaye andazi ukuba abantu bazakucinga ntoni okanye bazakuphendula njani. Ndiyazi nje ukucula ibali lam ngobunzulu obuthile abanye abantu abakwaziyo ukuliva ibali labo, nabo. Konke kuvela kubunzima bomntu, nditsho neengoma ezivakala njengezona ngoma zothando zivuya kakhulu ngenxa yobunzima kuba yindlela endifunde ngayo ukuthetha izinto ongenakuze uzithethe kwiincoko. Into endiyithandayo ngokubhala ingoma kukuba ungasibhala isivakalisi esifanelekileyo, kwaye akukho mfuneko yokuba ndikhangele amagama ukuze ndithethe inyani yam egqibeleleyo. Kudala ke ndiza kuba bendivela emntwini obhala iingoma ezineempawu zomoya, kodwa bendisoyika ukuthetha izinto ezithile kwiingoma zam. Ukuqala ngo-2009, ndakhulula. "Ndim UkuKhanya" yenye yezinto ezinesithsaba ukuze sikwazi ukuveza inyani enzulu ngendlela elula yigolide yombhali. Ndikwazile ukuhamba yonke indlela ndisoyika ukucula ingoma enjalo ukuyicula kwiiGrammy ... andiliphumelelanga elo wonga, kodwa ndavuya Olo yayilolunye uhlobo lokuphumelela. Kwakumnandi ukufika kwam ngalo mzuzu kwifomu yoluntu.

URobinson : Nguwuphi umyalezo ongathanda ukuwushiya nabantu abalwa noloyiko, ukungaqiniseki kunye nokuphelelwa lithemba ngala maxesha angaqhelekanga?

UArie : Ndiphila ubomi obungaqhelekanga. Andizange nditshate. Andizange ndithandane nendoda endifuna ukuyitshata. Andinabo abantwana. Ndandizisebenzela ngelixesha ndandineminyaka engama-25. Kwaye into endiyenzayo yokwenza umsebenzi inqabile kwaye yahlukile. Ngamanye amaxesha ndiyazilibala izinto zemihla ngemihla abantu abadlula kuzo. Ndiziva ngathi xa siphila ubomi obuxakeke ngokwenene amaxesha amaninzi asibandakanyi uxanduva lwethu kuphela. Kodwa sikwabaleka kwiimvakalelo zethu, iintlungu, okanye uloyiko. Okanye nantoni na engaphakathi ngaphakathi-elo lizwi liphakamileyo. Ndicinga ukuba kukho into efuziselayo malunga negunya lobhubhane lokuhlala ngaphakathi. Kuvakala njengethuba lokungena ngaphakathi. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba ibesoteric apho ucamngca khona kangangeyure. Ukuya nje kwindawo kwaye ujonge zonke izinto ozoyikayo kuba siyazi xa ujonga isithunzi sakho, siyanyamalala ngokukhawuleza kunokuba sicinga ukuba kuyakuba njalo. Kwaye ngaphakathi kwendawo apho ukwazi ukujonga khona, uloyiko lwakho, iimpendulo zihlala zivela. Kwaye yile nto siyifunayo ngoku: iimpendulo. Uninzi lolo luphoswa ngapha nangapha kwingqondo yethu. Ukuba singayibeka engqondweni nasentliziyweni yethu kwaye sijike sizijonge, iimpendulo ziqala ukuza nemibono neengcinga ezincinci. Akukho mntu waziyo ukuba enze ntoni, kodwa sonke sinendawo kuthi eyaziyo. Kuya kufuneka uqhelane naloo nxalenye yakho. Kunzima ekuqaleni ukuthula xa ungazange uthule kuba kulapho zonke izinto ezoyikisayo zikhona. Kodwa ayothusi njengoko ucinga ukuba wakube uyijongile.

URobinson: Ulumke kakhulu. Oko wabelane ngako kufanelekile kuye wonke umntu, nokuba zithini na iimeko zabo. Ukuba abantu banokufikelela kule ndawo uyichazayo ngaphakathi kubo, yonke enye into ivela kuloo nto.

UArie: Iimpendulo zingaphakathi kuthi sonke. Kwaye kukho izinto ezithile akukho mntu unokukuxelela ngaphandle kwakho. Ngoku izibonda ziphezulu kakhulu, kuya kufuneka ufumane indlela yokuziva ngokwakho.

Ilizwi lokugqibela

Indiya.Ukuziqhelanisa ne-intanethi kuka-Arie, i-Wellness Of We, ifuna ukuqhubela phambili nentlalontle ehlangeneyo kwihlabathi elingalunganga. Olu luhlu lubonisa iividiyo zokuziqhelanisa imihla ngemihla kunye neencoko ezibukhoma kunye noluhlu lweengcali zempilo kunye nabameli abavela kwilizwe liphela, kubandakanya no-Arie uqobo, ngeentetho ezenzelwe ukuqhubela phambili impilo-ntle kunye nokhathalelo loluntu. "Wellness of We" yincoko yeentsuku ezisi-8 ekwi-intanethi yokuqhubela phambili impilo-ntle ebaleke yaqala ukusebenza ukusuka ngoMeyi 25 ukuya kuJuni 1, 2020. Ungabukela iiseshoni ezisi-8 kwi-Wellness of We.

I-India.Arie ijoyina i-Resiliency 2020 kwi-Zoom ngo-Septemba 10, 2020.